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The Main Course Introduction (4:12)
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Patrick Martins, Katy Keiffer, Heritage Radio Network, White Oak Pastures, Will Harris, www.whiteoakpastures.com, The Main Course,Betsy Pochoda (16:33)
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Betsy Pochoda, editor for Antiques, The Nation, The NY Post, NY Daily News, Entertainment Weekly, there are no ideas that couldn't be made available to everybody, Rupert Murdoch stranglehold, difference between working at magazines and newspapers, quick cycle for newspapers, tabloid newspapers think their readership is stupid, they edit accordingly, Entertainment Weekly was founded to only promote products, now it has become a tabloid, mixing populism and elitism to remove both, the NY Post used to be an intelligent persons paper, Dorothy Shift owned the paper when it was at its best, writers weren't allowed to be smart while writing for the Post, Patrick and Betsy met through Slow Food, she was with House & Garden back then, trajectory of slow food, it's become a lower case word, economies of scale, good food is more expensive, elitism issues, farmers markets, more diverse crowds, Carlo Petrini, Vanity Fair, Vogue, House & Garden, environmentalism, nothing has taken its place,An Illustrious Career in Publishing (23:08)
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Betsy Pochoda, illustrious publication career, Radio Bra Red Waves, bringing interesting ideas to the general population, educating the public about trends, Roberta's reminds Betsy of the 60's, alternative food began with the hippies, brutal and puritanical, France will change anybodys mind, Julia Child, Alice Waters, a moment in France that changed everything, Florence Fabricant, everybody eats well in France, that's the goal, Betsy cannot deal with elitism, financial issues facing organic food, economies of scale, we need something between hand raised locally raised and commodity, we spend 6% of our income on food, other countries spend 25%, Betsy comes from a farm family in Missouri, they ate good wholesome food that tasted great, Antiques Magazine, antique road shows, they go for the aw shucks moment, it's like playing the lottery, something for nothing attitude, food metaphors, Betsy is an omnivore, punitive aspect to food, populism, Fox News is irresponsible The Nation is not, Betsy wished she did more at the NY Post, Betsy likes spectrum of opinion, Betsy is a big Obama supporter,Elizabeth Meltz, Directory of Food Safety and Sustainability for Batali/Bastianich (12:39)
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Elizabeth Meltz, pioneer of a new role in the food industry, playing the games of the US government, Directory of Food Safety and Sustainability for Batali/Bastianich, B&B, there are different codes for different states, compliance A-Z, every inspector has a different personality, changing inspectors every two months, some small places have horrible inspectors that ruin their lives, Fantasma's, Paradise Locker Meats, every regulatory agency claims to be getting rid of this problem, HACCP, Hazard Analysis and Critical Control Points, reserved for specific things in restaurants, sous vide, low temp cooking, sushi rice, cured meats, bleaching meat, what would you change at the USDA?, restaurants vs slaughterhouses, restaurants are not federally regulated, depends on local inspectors, restaurants in NYC are not that big,Regulations: Everybody Has Something Different to Say (16:29)
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the USDA is a much bigger animal, everybody has something different to say, cured meats, Salumi, pancetta, guanciale, whole muscle meats only go through one curing phase, ground meats have a fermented step, fermented from 8 to 18 hours, in NYC they never give you the same inspector twice, each area of a restaurant is regulated separately in Las Vegas, there is a disconnect between the way people think about food and the realities of getting sick, scary recalls, pre made burgers are not always safe, ground beef can come from many different places, whole muscle is usually sterile, Joe Bastianich is always trying to expand, wants to change the country, www.mariobatali.com, www.bastianich.com, Tarry Market,Sean Dimin of Sea2Table (14:30)
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Sean Dimin, Sea2Table, sustainable fish, Boford North Carolina, wholesale markets, shipping direct to restaurants, Marine stewardship council, trusting the source, The End of the Line, overfishing, grouper fishing, cutting fish for restaurants in the local area, weather, currents, tides, striped bass, flounder, varieties of fish change all the time, quotas imposed on fishermen, bottom fish, trigger fish, there are many different types of grouper, Magnus and Stevenson act, Alaska figured out their fishing problem in the 60's, a model for the whole world on overfishing, grouper closure for 4 months, red snapper moratorium, seasonal closures, catch shares, derby fishery, two week sea bass season, www.sea2table.com,Jonah Rhodehamel of Oliveto Restaurant and Cafe (6:46)
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Jonah Rhodehamel, Madison Wisconsin, been working in restaurants since he was 15, Oliveto Restaurant and Cafe, originally founded by Oliveto Restaurant and Cafe, charcuterie is a staple, whole animal cooking, Community Greens, heirloom polentas, whole milled wheat, whole grain pasta, red flint corn polenta, Oliveto has a cafe and a restaurant, pancetta, http://www.oliveto.com/, Heritage Foods USA, Heritage grains and corn meal,Download MP3 (Full Episode)
The Main Course Introduction (11:40)
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Patrick Martins, The Main Course, Katy Keiffer, Salumi, Sam Edwards, Jimmy's 43, www.jimmysno43.com, Hearst Ranch, Brian Kenny, zebra meat, horse meat, Newt Gingrich, Bill Clinton, Monica Lewinsky, Elliot Spitzer, Leaping Waters Farm, Jefferson Davis Highway, Benedict Arnold,Hot 80 Year Old Women, Human Waste & Steamed Beer (26:40)
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politics, Republicans, Democrats, George W. Bush, Haiti, Jimmy's 43, beer certification class, Samuel Merritt, Civilization of Beer, www.civilizationofbeer.com, walk in refrigerator, burp castle, cookoffs, Julia Child, melted gelatin, Nick Solares, Theo Peck, Betty Fussell, the hottest 80 year olds, night soil, human waste, what can brown do for you?, UPS, yeast, living beer, unfiltered, steam beer, Frederick Louis Maytag III, Fritz Maytag,Whole Animal Cooking, Pizza Trends & Beer Pairings (20:00)
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Salumi, Nate Appleman, butchering, whole animal cooking, boxed meats, beer pairings, strip steak, porterhouse, short ribs, Heritage Foods USA, sustainability, slaughterhouse, slaughtering, whole hog, Brooklyn Brewery Local 1, wood fired ovens, manipulate a fire to do what you want it to do, Neapolitan pizza needs 750-800 degrees, I wanna make a pizza that anyone can enjoy, Sal & Carmines, Ray's Pizza, Joe's Pizza at Bleeker St., South Street Seaport, II Brigante, chuck roll, National Cattleman's Beef Association, off cuts, difficult cuts, braising, frying, sauteing, new cuts, Freeman's, www.freemansrestaurant.com, wood is abundant in California, almond wood, Asian Longhorned Beetle, Newman Farm Pork Products, www.newmanfarm.com, Berkshire pigs, Ancient White Park, ground beef, local farm raised meats, Carlo Petrini, Slow Food, gastronomic quality, local sausage week, Union Square Market, green market, maple smoked kielbasa, lamb sausage, Flying Pigs Farm, www.flyingpigsfarm.com, there are not enough slaughterhouses in the Northeast, regionality, Virginia, North Carolina,Scandals of the Noughts & Changes in Our Food System (26:40)
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scandals, Jimmy's 43, Heather Mills, Mia Farrow, Mary Kay Letourneau, abstinence only education, liberal run media, Elliot Spitzer, Gary Hart, Jim McGreevey, John Edwards, Mark Sanford, Robert Johnson, the rise of craft peer, public awareness of food systems, Patio Dining, Sarah Jenkins, green market, homemade pasta, Michael Pollan, the 100 mile dinner, regional approach, Snail of Approval, Medieval food history, the word Tavern has been hijacked, peco.peco.com, Hiroshima pancake, miso oden, Christian Slater, Martha Stewart, Tom Brady,Show Wrap Up: Cicerone Certification Program & The Civilization Of Beer (30:00)
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Armandino Batali, www.salumicuredmeats.com/, Riverside Drive, what was New York like 100 years ago, transition of this city over 100 years, children factory workers, return to artisinal food production, home wine making, DIY movement, The Good Beer Seal, in 1978 Jimmy Carter passed a law allowing home brewing of beer, Jack McAuliffe, consolidation of the brewing industry, Pabst Blue Ribbon, Cicerone Certification Program, The Great American Beer Festival, www.cicerone.org, online test to become a certified beer server, beverage industry, Slow Food Nation, Carlo Petrini, education, if you know it you have a duty to teach it, gastronomes, Islam is taking over Christianity, birth control, the Vatican, women were the first brewers, monks, Jeerleaders, Dogfish 90 Minute IPA, Brooklyn IPA,Download MP3 (Full Episode)







