On a lively episode of The Main Course, Patrick Martins is joined by chef and friend of the show Shanna Pacifico, who has just announced she'll be leaving Back Forty for Back Forty West, and Zak Kell chef du cuisine at Community Food & Juice. Tune in for a conversation on everything from the culture of destination restaurants to the process of changing venues as a chef. Hear what Shanna expects from her new gig and why she's so obsessed with the cumari pepper right now. Listen as Zak explains what makes his catch of the day so important to him and how he had to make adjustments coming from Clinton Street Baking to Community Food & Juice. This program was sponsored by Fairway Market.

Photo 1: Shanna Pacifico, Photo 2: Community Food & Juice

"The new space [Back Forty West] has three floors, a basement, the main floor and a prep kitchen upstairs. I'm in for a challenge."

"For me, a lot of times its about recreating a dish I grew up with."

"I'm hoping that people go back to carnal eating."

--Shanna Pacifico of Back Forty West on The Main Course

"Anything at any point should be appetizing. The meat should look good off the truck, while I'm grinding it, when it's on the grill, etc."

--Zak Kell, chef du cuisine at Community Food & Juice

The Main Course introduces a new segment, the HRN Week in Review; where Patrick & HRN Executive Producer Jack Inslee re-cap the week in radio and discuss current events. Later on the show, Liz Clarke, head butcher and chef at Bubby's, comes on the discuss her experiences with butchering and the challenges she faces trying to make use of a whole steer every week at her restaurant. Tune in as Liz gets to the nitty gritty of butchering, explaining which cuts are good for which dishes and also helping listeners understand why whole animal cooking is so important. Also on the show, Ed Litvak & Traven Rice of The Lo Down NY. This episode was sponsored by Hearst Ranch.

This week Nicole sits down with local Brooklyn sauce maker Mackenzie Smith, founder of Herbin' Spoonful. Learn about new lavender, chai, and habernero sauces and what their favorite sauce accompianaments are. This episode was sponsored by Hearst Ranch.