On a lively episode of The Main Course, Patrick Martins is joined by chef and friend of the show Shanna Pacifico, who has just announced she'll be leaving Back Forty for Back Forty West, and Zak Kell chef du cuisine at Community Food & Juice. Tune in for a conversation on everything from the culture of destination restaurants to the process of changing venues as a chef. Hear what Shanna expects from her new gig and why she's so obsessed with the cumari pepper right now. Listen as Zak explains what makes his catch of the day so important to him and how he had to make adjustments coming from Clinton Street Baking to Community Food & Juice. This program was sponsored by Fairway Market.

Photo 1: Shanna Pacifico, Photo 2: Community Food & Juice

"The new space [Back Forty West] has three floors, a basement, the main floor and a prep kitchen upstairs. I'm in for a challenge."

"For me, a lot of times its about recreating a dish I grew up with."

"I'm hoping that people go back to carnal eating."

--Shanna Pacifico of Back Forty West on The Main Course

"Anything at any point should be appetizing. The meat should look good off the truck, while I'm grinding it, when it's on the grill, etc."

--Zak Kell, chef du cuisine at Community Food & Juice

Tune into a sweet episode of The Main Course as host Patrick Martins sits down and chats with "Rising Star" pastry chef Jenny McCoy. Jenny talks about her experiences working with desserts and gives listeners some insights into the process of a pastry chef. Learn how you can make elaborate desserts at home and find out why she thinks you don't always have to follow recipes exactly as written. Hear about how salts and savory flavors are finding their way back to desserts and hear about Jenny's personal journey into the world of pastries! This program was brought to you by White Oak Pastures.

"There is definitely an uptick in savory ingredients in deserts lately. Salt has become a focal point in some desserts."

"You can make elaborate and delicious desserts at home quite easily."

"Recipes are strong guide, but you don't have to follow them to a 'T'."

--Pastry Chef Jenny McCoy on The Main Course