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    This week on The Naturalist Bernie hosted astronomy expert Michael Hamburg for a return to last week's topic: misconceptions and notes of interest concerning the cosmos. Michael explains why stars aren't really white, why the days are getting longer, how a wobbly earth affects us, and how to read by the light of Venus. Tune in for another illuminating journey into space: the final frontier.

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    This week on The Main Course Patrick and Katy have an in-depth discussion with food movement veteran Joan Dye Gussow. Plus, Ben and Gwen from The Brooklyn Grange stop by and exchange farming tips with Joan on-air.
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    Joan Dye Gussow, Author of "This Organic Life" (20:30)

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    Joan Dye Gussow, This Organic Life, Growing, Older, gardening surveys, Ronald Reagan, Rodale Institute, The Cornucopia Project, Jimmy Carter, Energy Reserach Center, Eliot Coleman, Robert Bergland, Joan taught a Nutritional Ecology class, concern over how much food we can produce, population and food, how many people can we feed?, depends on how we use and grow food, saving agriculture by re localizing the food system, research and desire prompted Joan to grow her own food, Congers New York, Joan has 1000 square feet of growing space, zucchini, melons, urban farming, growing locally, the issue of cooking, recipes woven into stories, ethnic influence, carrots, there are so many in the winter, carrots and beets will hold forever, teaching people to cook vs serving prepared meals, Joan often eats 1 course meals,

    The Best is the Enemy of the Good (22:13)

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    Cherryholmes, old cookbooks, series of menus for the young wife, a window into the way people thought you should eat, upper class people used cookbooks, Laura Ingalls Wilder, Italian women who came over and skipped cooking classes, local agriculture, eating in season, local food with mediocre taste, improving soils, local vs organic, you can make a local farmer organic but you can't make an organic farmer local, the best is the enemy of the good, government subsidized produce, high tax on petroleum would help, supporting local agriculture, spices are very light and a very high value crop, Joan thinks we should eat a lot less meat, Purdue, Smithfield, an article from Mother Jones, it's hard to ween people off of cheap food, family farms, producing commodity meat, to change the model we need a new dialog, using fox urine to discourage river rats from eating produce, you can buy fox urine, muskrats are Joans latest nemesis, skunks, they dig a lot of holes,

    Word Association with Joan Dye Gussow (21:39)

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    Tekserve, Cherryholmes, pawpaw, Ben Flanner, Gwen Schantz, Brooklyn Grange, green soy beans, edamame, they are what lima beans would be if they grew up, soy beans never get mushy, onions, Joan grows her own onions, garlic, garlic festival, Gwen worked on a garlic farm in college, she harvested a half acre of garlic single handedly, Buckwheat, Joan grows it as a cover crop, kale, kale is becoming more popular, kale smoothie, kale chips, Brooklyn Grange is a commercial farm, located on a roof in New York City, one acre farm, water, Joan feels a mixture of envy and disapproval about all that soil being imported, rooflite, using compost, commercial water, berries, fruits are hard to grow, mold, gooseberry, protecting crops from birds, Reemay,

    What It's Like to Never Be Done? Farming with Brooklyn Grange (32:16)

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    what's it like to never be done?, there is no reward to email, August is overwhelming in the garden, November is a really satisfying season, pepper problem, what do you do with all of them?, potatoes are patient, farmers markets, apples that are being sold now are from last fall, they keep beautifully, seed exchange, Fedco, heirlooms, Seed Savers Exchange, how has working on a farm changed Gwen and Ben?, they anticpate a half pound of produce per foot, 20,000 pounds, pomegranates, they used to be very rare and special, crop moving, seasonality, changing peoples mentality, what are the steps we can take to reeducate the population?, re branding, proximity is directly related to freshness, taste is the biggest factor, Joan can't find a politically acceptable banana, Just Food, connecting poor people in the city to farmers in the surrounding area, CSA, Community Supported Agriculture, food stamps, Jacquie Berger, The Long Emergency, the South has too much gun culture, Brooklyn Grange mostly got support from the city, love of agriculture and fear of living the city inspired Ben, it has evolved into something with strong political and symbolic aspects, learning curve in agriculture, How to Grow More Vegetables: Than You Ever Thought Possible on Less Land Than You Can Imagine, John Jeavons, young urban farmers, most aren't from farming families, suburban small town kids, the movement is driving millions of young people into farming and agriculture, societal shift, Nanny Culture,

    Socialogical Implications of the Return to the Dirt (19:25)

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