This week on What Doesn’t Kill You, host Katy Kieffer is talking beef and welcomes guest Nicolette Hahn Niman to the program. Nicolette is a rancher, attorney, and writer. Much of her time is spent speaking and writing about the problems of industrialized livestock production, including the book Righteous Porkchop: Finding a Life and Good Food Beyond Factory Farms and four essays she has written on the subject for the New York Times. She has written for Huffington Post, CHOW, and Earth Island Journal. Previously, she was the senior attorney for the environmental organization Waterkeeper Alliance, where she was in charge of the organization’s campaign to reform the concentrated livestock and poultry industry, and, before that, an attorney for National Wildlife Federation. She joins Katy today to talk about her newest book, Defending Beef: The Case for Sustainable Meat Production. This program was brought to you by Whole Foods Market.

“When you plow the Earth, that is the single most damaging thing you can do.” [11:57]

“There’s nothing that makes the soil more water retentive than in well managed grazing.” [14:14]

—Nicolette Hahn Niman on What Doesn’t Kill You